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Title: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 12, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
 :zomgwtfbbq:

I'll open with Novell 3.x. Yes, it was on a resume I saw just recently... listed right up there with all the relevant skills...
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: hizzo3 on February 12, 2015, 09:15:25 PM
Maybe they are looking for a legacy job...
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: Dieselboy on February 12, 2015, 09:36:24 PM
It's like when people list their Cisco certs like this:

CCNP R&S
CCNA R&S
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 13, 2015, 08:52:43 AM
I always get a kick out of people that have been in IT for over five years that never got around to deleting "Microsoft Office: Including Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Powerpoint, Microsoft Outlook, and Microsoft Access".

Dude, you're a mid-level networking guy... all we care about is whether or not you know Visio.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: hizzo3 on February 13, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 13, 2015, 08:52:43 AM
I always get a kick out of people that have been in IT for over five years that never got around to deleting "Microsoft Office: Including Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Powerpoint, Microsoft Outlook, and Microsoft Access".

Dude, you're a mid-level networking guy... all we care about is whether or not you know Visio.
I dunno. I've run into a few that couldn't make a simple spreadsheet or a professional looking PowerPoint. Then again these were developers.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: icecream-guy on February 13, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
I think those are in my keywords section for those electronic submissions.  Visio at the minimum.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 13, 2015, 10:51:01 AM
Well, how about token-ring experience?
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: LynK on February 13, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 13, 2015, 10:51:01 AM
Well, how about token-ring experience?

what is token ring? :problem?:
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 13, 2015, 03:48:10 PM
It's the ring that inspired JRR Tolkien to write his LotR trilogy.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: Reggle on February 14, 2015, 02:26:02 AM
Quote from: Dieselboy on February 12, 2015, 09:36:24 PM
It's like when people list their Cisco certs like this:

CCNP R&S
CCNA R&S
I used to do that too and I can explain: getting through the HR-wall. If someone tells HR "get someone with at least CCNA" then HR often will look for that exact keyword. Listing just CCNP doesn't get their attention.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 14, 2015, 10:45:29 AM
True on listing CCNP and CCNA.

NOT true on listing a Windows 95 MCP.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: Otanx on February 17, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
Someone should tell him he does not have a Novell certification for 3.x any more. Novell expired all of them several years ago. I do have a "kitchen sink" resume that has everything, but I edit it to be specific for the job I am applying for.

We ran into a candidate that had a certification I had never heard of. I Googled it, and couldn't find anything except his resume, and a few others that looked suspiciously similar. We asked him about it, and was told a friend of his hands them out to help people get into IT. His friend also helped write his resume.

-Otanx
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 17, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
D-link unmanaged hubs

Really? You managed the unmanaged hubs? Cool story, bro.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: icecream-guy on February 17, 2015, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 17, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
D-link unmanaged hubs

Really? You managed the unmanaged hubs? Cool story, bro.

I can sure set them up.... real quick too...
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: wintermute000 on February 17, 2015, 10:27:48 PM
Quote from: Reggle on February 14, 2015, 02:26:02 AM
Quote from: Dieselboy on February 12, 2015, 09:36:24 PM
It's like when people list their Cisco certs like this:

CCNP R&S
CCNA R&S
I used to do that too and I can explain: getting through the HR-wall. If someone tells HR "get someone with at least CCNA" then HR often will look for that exact keyword. Listing just CCNP doesn't get their attention.

Fair point, but I'd rather think that any org whose hiring doesn't know enough about networking to recognise a CCNP isn't an org I'm interested in.

Well maybe I've lost jobs in the past I'll never know due to not listing my CCNA.... lol

Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 18, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
Windows NT 3.5 *and* 4.0.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: icecream-guy on February 19, 2015, 08:20:56 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 18, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
Windows NT 3.5 *and* 4.0.

wha? not even OS/2 1.0, 1.1, & 1.2 ???
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 19, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
Saw a DOS 5.0, 6.0, and 6.22 on a 20-pager last year.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: ChestHair on February 19, 2015, 10:00:01 AM
My knowledge of DOS 6.22 directly translated into me being really good at the dir and delete commands in IOS.

<sarcasm>
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: dlots on February 25, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
I think that expert baffler guy had MS dos, a A+ from 1998, and NT, with a degree from one of those $30 degree places
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: killabee on February 25, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
I was told the reason people list certs for EOL systems is to showcase that they've been in IT for THAT long.  Thoughts?

Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 26, 2015, 07:33:41 AM
Putting down a job from 199X proves the same thing, no need to clutter things up with certs that mean even less than decades-old experience. If only the EOL certs are there and there's nothing new, I'd have to ask if this is a guy that's shot all his bullets, if we're dealing with a burnout... Old certs listed plus new ones, the guy's a cert hound (I confess to being one), and will continue to show that pattern, unless he burns out.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: hizzo3 on February 27, 2015, 02:36:34 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 17, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
D-link unmanaged hubs

Really? You managed the unmanaged hubs? Cool story, bro.
Ask him to configure port security on it. :)
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on February 27, 2015, 08:30:34 AM
When I see an old-timer roll up and he's got a resume that goes ALL the way back, I do like to reminisce with him when I see stuff like token-ring and OS/2 on the back pages. But if he doesn't wince when I say things like "beaconing" or "browse master elections", I get suspicious. If you're going to claim old gear, you better remember the pain you went through, or you didn't spend more than 5 minutes working with it.

And when I see MS Exchange on the resume, I really start to pick, because I had loads of experience with that product.
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: deanwebb on March 09, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
Guy is interviewing for a security role...
My Boss: So, I see you have some Palo Alto experience. Can you talk about that?
Applicant: What?
My Boss: It's on your resume, when you were working for Generic Company.
Applicant: I never worked with Palo Alto. I don't even work with firewalls.
My Boss: Well, this is a network security position you're applying for...
Applicant: How did you get my resume? I'm not a security person. (hangs up like a BOSS!)

Wow...

Then there was the R&S guy who put down many, many years of Cisco switching experience...
Me: "OK, so what is BPDU Guard and why is it a good security practice to use?"
Applicant: "What is what?"
Me: "BPDU Guard."
Applicant: "Never heard of it."
Me: :zomgwtfbbq:
Title: Re: Seriously? That Was on Your Resume?
Post by: NetworkGroover on March 09, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 09, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
Guy is interviewing for a security role...
My Boss: So, I see you have some Palo Alto experience. Can you talk about that?
Applicant: What?
My Boss: It's on your resume, when you were working for Generic Company.
Applicant: I never worked with Palo Alto. I don't even work with firewalls.
My Boss: Well, this is a network security position you're applying for...
Applicant: How did you get my resume? I'm not a security person. (hangs up like a BOSS!)

Wow...

Then there was the R&S guy who put down many, many years of Cisco switching experience...
Me: "OK, so what is BPDU Guard and why is it a good security practice to use?"
Applicant: "What is what?"
Me: "BPDU Guard."
Applicant: "Never heard of it."
Me: :zomgwtfbbq:

There are still many, many customers I've run into that don't know about BPDU guard, filter, loop guard, etc.  L2 often seems like some necessary evil for many of them - make it work and then leave it alone... it's funny how they sometimes don't realize just how important STP is unless you're running a true L3 switch fabric.  I used to work at a place where I discovered the enterprise root bridge was an access switch in a random wiring closet.