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Title: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: that1guy15 on March 27, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
OH ASAs and their complicated licensing...

Deployed a 5515X in a pretty simple setup a while back. Setup remote-access for anyconnect and webvpn for remote admin or 2-4 users as we migrate them to our primary VPN solution. I see now only two users at a time can connect. I disconnect either of the two and someone else can get in.

Licensed features for this platform:
Maximum Physical Interfaces       : Unlimited      perpetual
Maximum VLANs                     : 200            perpetual
Inside Hosts                      : Unlimited      perpetual
Failover                          : Active/Active  perpetual
Encryption-DES                    : Enabled        perpetual
Encryption-3DES-AES               : Enabled        perpetual
Security Contexts                 : 2              perpetual
GTP/GPRS                          : Disabled       perpetual
AnyConnect Premium Peers          : 2              perpetual
AnyConnect Essentials             : Disabled       perpetual
Other VPN Peers                   : 750            perpetual
Total VPN Peers                   : 750            perpetual
Shared License                    : Disabled       perpetual
AnyConnect for Mobile             : Disabled       perpetual
AnyConnect for Cisco VPN Phone    : Disabled       perpetual
Advanced Endpoint Assessment      : Disabled       perpetual
UC Phone Proxy Sessions           : 2              perpetual
Total UC Proxy Sessions           : 2              perpetual
Botnet Traffic Filter             : Disabled       perpetual
Intercompany Media Engine         : Disabled       perpetual
IPS Module                        : Disabled       perpetual
Cluster                           : Enabled        perpetual
Cluster Members                   : 2              perpetual

This platform has an ASA5525 VPN Premium license.


I am running the premium license and I was under the assumption I had 750 total VPNs including anyconnect and Web but I see I only have two "premium" Anyconnect peers.

What am I missing?
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: deanwebb on March 27, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
750 VPNs with other devices, you betcha. Just only 2 with AnyConnect.

You are missing, therefore, additional AnyConnect license bundles. You may want to get a 5-pack for this exercise.

Good thing for you, I'm a CCLIE: Cisco Certified Licensing Information Engineer. 8)
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: that1guy15 on March 27, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
Argh that sucks. Oh well it will force us to get them off this ASA for VPN quicker.

Thanks!
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: wintermute000 on March 28, 2015, 11:17:59 PM
I know a lot of SMBs who stick with the old Cisco IPSEC client for this very reason. You can run 750 of those... lol
I don't know how it runs with Win8 but defo still works fine with Win7 (including x64)
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: that1guy15 on March 29, 2015, 09:01:24 PM
Ah good idea! There are a handful of clients connecting up to this ASA which replaced a 3000 concentrator so they have an old client. Didn't know the newer ASAs would support such an old client.

Might give that a go if Im in a pinch!
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: wintermute000 on March 30, 2015, 03:39:53 AM
Just tiny sliver of doubt, I can't actually recall running the old IPSEC client with X series just 5520/5510/5505 etc. but I'm fairly sure they haven't depreciated it in 9.x train, if you use the same old school syntax it should still work. ****deanwebb are you there??? lol***
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: SimonV on March 30, 2015, 04:11:03 AM
Last time I checked, the SSL licenses weren't too expensive. I think my previous project paid a couple hundred euros for 750 users
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: deanwebb on March 30, 2015, 08:12:48 AM
Quote from: wintermute000 on March 30, 2015, 03:39:53 AM
Just tiny sliver of doubt, I can't actually recall running the old IPSEC client with X series just 5520/5510/5505 etc. but I'm fairly sure they haven't depreciated it in 9.x train, if you use the same old school syntax it should still work. ****deanwebb are you there??? lol***
Haven't seen it done myself, but it would be pretty wizzo if it did work.
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: routerdork on March 30, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 30, 2015, 08:12:48 AM
wizzo
I hereby nominate this as the word of the week!
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: DanC on April 03, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
This is the very reason why I order anyconnect essentials license with every ASA I purchase. It's only $150 list on a 5515 for 250 clients to connect...

The webvpn premium license is a completely different matter though, very expensive!
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: javentre on April 03, 2015, 01:40:14 PM
It's worth nothing that AnyConnect Essentials and Premium are the old licenses, going forward (> 3.x) you'll need the new licenses - Apex and Plus.
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: DanC on April 03, 2015, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: javentre on April 03, 2015, 01:40:14 PM
It's worth nothing that AnyConnect Essentials and Premium are the old licenses, going forward (> 3.x) you'll need the new licenses - Apex and Plus.

This is the first time I've heard of this new model, will look into that, thanks for posting!
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: that1guy15 on April 04, 2015, 02:48:58 PM
Yeah the ASA license mess is pissing me off. The ASA itself is not doing much better. Maybe I just havent rolled over and accepted it for what it is but Im starting to think they are a steaming pile o'shit.

Right now we are evaluating multiple option for WAN edge and remote access and ASA is still in the mix, but Im really starting to lean towards a Palo Alto firewall with F5 controlling remote access and application publishing.

What are you thoughts?
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: icecream-guy on April 06, 2015, 07:47:15 AM
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/security/anyconnect-og.pdf

from here,  it looks like the APEX licensing is for Anyconnect 4.0 integration with Cisco ISE.

this is the first Ive heard of this APEX thing also. Need more research
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: deanwebb on April 06, 2015, 08:22:08 AM
We're still between ASA+SourceFire and Palo Alto for our choice.
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: that1guy15 on April 06, 2015, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on April 06, 2015, 08:22:08 AM
We're still between ASA+SourceFire and Palo Alto for our choice.

Everything I hear and everyone I talk to says Palo Alto is a much better firewall and security device but Cisco is still the best option for end user remote access VPN.
Title: Re: ASA AnyConnect Total Users
Post by: DanC on April 07, 2015, 05:24:37 AM
Quote from: that1guy15 on April 06, 2015, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on April 06, 2015, 08:22:08 AM
We're still between ASA+SourceFire and Palo Alto for our choice.

Everything I hear and everyone I talk to says Palo Alto is a much better firewall and security device but Cisco is still the best option for end user remote access VPN.

Juniper is better for remote access in my opinion. The ASA isn't bad at all but Juniper has the edge especially on the SSL clientless side of things.

I evaluated a Palo Alto, good boxes but the lack of partners and support concerned me over here in the UK, perhaps it's different in the US? I've just ordered some ASA's with  SourceFire IPS + AVC, looking forward to sticking those in!

There's a pretty cool demo of FireSight on dcloud you can have a play with :)