Arista Announces CloudVision

Started by NetworkGroover, June 23, 2015, 12:10:30 PM

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NetworkGroover

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Quote from: wintermute000 on October 13, 2015, 05:00:03 AM
Whats really impressive from my POV is that Cloudvision lets you automate without actually knowing python/ansible/puppet/chef. in fact it seems to replace the current trend of using ansible (correct me if I'm wrong) as all your engineers can just throw CLI straight into configlets (my takeaway anyway?) without actually bothering to learn YAML, ansible or python.

Yep that's exactly the point.  If you don't have the time or skill set to program it yourself via other automation platforms like Ansible, CV provides a turn-key solution.  Plus there's other things CV can do that Ansible can't (Bug portal, network rollback(maybe?), etc.)

I think Arista learned at one point or another is having all these programming hooks into the switches is great, but not everyone is Microsoft, Google, etc. that has the manpower, or have any background in programming.  So as per Arista's usual scheme of flexibility, here's an option that can do it for you, and then some. ;)
Engineer by day, DJ by night, family first always

NetworkGroover

Oh, and as far direct integration into the vSwitch... there's two pieces to that puzzle, and either one doesn't have control over the other.
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burnyd

you guys are building a lot of awesomeness into cvp.  It is very impressive for sure.

wintermute000

Well apparently we're in a bid with Arista and our parent telco for a DC refresh for one of the biggest in-house DC users (think bank, telco etc.) in Oz. Its toe to toe vs Cisco!

burnyd

Quote from: wintermute000 on October 18, 2015, 02:48:39 AM
Well apparently we're in a bid with Arista and our parent telco for a DC refresh for one of the biggest in-house DC users (think bank, telco etc.) in Oz. Its toe to toe vs Cisco!

Go Arista never look back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJZq4dRjf4

wintermute000

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I'll be pumped if I get thrown on that project. BGP only ansible/CVP provisioned CLOS fabric here I come ROFL.

It'll be really annoying though if Cisco win it (by dropping pants price and/or threat of price hikes on the rest of their range... though companies of this size don't respond well to threats, we'll see) and I get thrown on it anyway, but as an ACI deployment :wall:

NetworkGroover

Quote from: wintermute000 on October 21, 2015, 12:46:05 AM
I'll be pumped if I get thrown on that project. BGP only ansible/CVP provisioned CLOS fabric here I come ROFL.

It'll be really annoying though if Cisco win it (by dropping pants price and/or threat of price hikes on the rest of their range... though companies of this size don't respond well to threats, we'll see) and I get thrown on it anyway, but as an ACI deployment :wall:

Where other vendors usually try to find a way to exclude other vendors from testing, Arista actually welcomes customers to do bake-offs.  When it takes 3-4 Cisco engineers a week to stand up what an Arista engineer does in a day.. and performs better.. that only helps Arista's case.  It's usually battling the slideware, politics, and strong-arm tactics you described that's the hard part.

As far as not responding well to threats, good.  I look forward to hearing another story of where John Chambers(Well, guess it might be Chuck Robbins) calls a CTO and tells them that they're stupid and going to get fired for buying Arista.  Didn't go over well with that CTO either, and you can bet that story got passed around to his fellow close CTOs.  Stuff like that only hurts them more. 
Engineer by day, DJ by night, family first always

wintermute000

This is a multibillion dollar company, they are used to getting their way and even if they lose DC switching they can't afford to lose the relationship entirely you'd think. If his company for example decides it's juniper from now on it would be big big news in this region.

burnyd



Quote from: AspiringNetworker on October 21, 2015, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: wintermute000 on October 21, 2015, 12:46:05 AM
I'll be pumped if I get thrown on that project. BGP only ansible/CVP provisioned CLOS fabric here I come ROFL.

It'll be really annoying though if Cisco win it (by dropping pants price and/or threat of price hikes on the rest of their range... though companies of this size don't respond well to threats, we'll see) and I get thrown on it anyway, but as an ACI deployment :wall:

Where other vendors usually try to find a way to exclude other vendors from testing, Arista actually welcomes customers to do bake-offs.  When it takes 3-4 Cisco engineers a week to stand up what an Arista engineer does in a day.. and performs better.. that only helps Arista's case.  It's usually battling the slideware, politics, and strong-arm tactics you described that's the hard part.

As far as not responding well to threats, good.  I look forward to hearing another story of where John Chambers(Well, guess it might be Chuck Robbins) calls a CTO and tells them that they're stupid and going to get fired for buying Arista.  Didn't go over well with that CTO either, and you can bet that story got passed around to his fellow close CTOs.  Stuff like that only hurts them more.

QFT... QFMFT......

burnyd

Quote from: burnyd on October 21, 2015, 05:50:08 PM


Quote from: AspiringNetworker on October 21, 2015, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: wintermute000 on October 21, 2015, 12:46:05 AM
I'll be pumped if I get thrown on that project. BGP only ansible/CVP provisioned CLOS fabric here I come ROFL.

It'll be really annoying though if Cisco win it (by dropping pants price and/or threat of price hikes on the rest of their range... though companies of this size don't respond well to threats, we'll see) and I get thrown on it anyway, but as an ACI deployment :wall:

Where other vendors usually try to find a way to exclude other vendors from testing, Arista actually welcomes customers to do bake-offs.  When it takes 3-4 Cisco engineers a week to stand up what an Arista engineer does in a day.. and performs better.. that only helps Arista's case.  It's usually battling the slideware, politics, and strong-arm tactics you described that's the hard part.

As far as not responding well to threats, good.  I look forward to hearing another story of where John Chambers(Well, guess it might be Chuck Robbins) calls a CTO and tells them that they're stupid and going to get fired for buying Arista.  Didn't go over well with that CTO either, and you can bet that story got passed around to his fellow close CTOs.  Stuff like that only hurts them more.

QFT... QFMFT......

There was a specific telco close to where you are located who was in a similar situation.  Cisco gave them a 95% discount just to stay with them.  Obviously through support and other services they would get some money out of that deal and they still said no.

This is happening quite frequently these days.  I can tell you that cloud vision is really what its cracked out to be that the product itself can change a enterprise that has been doing configs overnight by hand into a enterprise that can offer zero touch provisioning and other awesome integrations into third party tools.  The product seems to keep getting better.

packetferret

Quote from: that1guy15 on June 23, 2015, 01:10:05 PM
Nice!

Now where is my demo and lab switches!?!

:)

You can spin up CVP and EOS within Eve-NG, have at it!

From my experience, CVP is still a bit rough around the edges and their order of operations can be frustrating at times. Turns out it's very difficult to build an all-encompassing automation/management user interface!

wintermute000

Bit of a thread necro there LOL

There are no open-standards based automation/orchestration solutions that are NOT rough around the edges. You have to go to the all-lockin systems based approaches (NSX, ACI etc.) for that along with all the attendant advantages/disadvantages that it brings. Its getting there but its still not quite there, even though CVP is probably one of the closest