Harman AMX SVSI

Started by config t, March 13, 2019, 05:55:22 PM

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config t

March 13, 2019, 05:55:22 PM
Does anyone have any experience with Harman AV products?

I'm going to be working with this gear a lot in the near future. I see they offer free training and certifications so I'm going to  start going down that path.
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

Dieselboy

#1
March 13, 2019, 10:17:50 PM
No, but please post back here with your findings any challenges. We might be able to help. I'm interested in this, I'm a fan of Harmon Kardon.

icecream-guy

#2
March 14, 2019, 06:13:50 AM
I don't think we have forums here to help
mebbe this 'ell help

https://proforums.harman.com/amx/categories
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

config t

#3
March 14, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Dieselboy on March 13, 2019, 10:17:50 PM
No, but please post back here with your findings any challenges. We might be able to help. I'm interested in this, I'm a fan of Harmon Kardon.

Will do. I'm not sure what their IP backbone is yet but probably a mix of Cisco and Brocade.

Quote from: ristau5741 on March 14, 2019, 06:13:50 AM
I don't think we have forums here to help
mebbe this 'ell help

https://proforums.harman.com/amx/categories


Much obliged!
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

Dieselboy

#4
March 15, 2019, 12:20:31 AM Last Edit: March 15, 2019, 07:21:02 AM by ristau5741
Quote from: config t on March 14, 2019, 05:30:12 PM


Will do. I'm not sure what their IP backbone is yet but probably a mix of Cisco and Brocade.




And then you get there on the first day and discover that it's a long daisy-chain of unmanaged Belkin switches   :twisted: :evil: :mrgreen:

icecream-guy

#5
March 15, 2019, 07:21:39 AM
Quote from: Dieselboy on March 15, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: config t on March 14, 2019, 05:30:12 PM


Will do. I'm not sure what their IP backbone is yet but probably a mix of Cisco and Brocade.




And then you get there on the first day and discover that it's a long daisy-chain of unmanaged Belkin switches   :twisted: :evil: :mrgreen:


Fixed that for you.
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

config t

#6
March 15, 2019, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: Dieselboy on March 15, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
And then you get there on the first day and discover that it's a long daisy-chain of unmanaged Belkin switches   :twisted: :evil: :mrgreen:

Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

Dieselboy

#7
March 16, 2019, 02:16:55 AM
No way Jose!

Quote from: ristau5741 on March 15, 2019, 07:21:39 AM


Fixed that for you.


:mrgreen: all software, no asic  ???

deanwebb

#8
March 18, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
This got me looking and learning... Harman has its own proprietary protocol and uses switches that handle that as well as IPv4/v6. The network should resemble a OT line that connects to the IT network. You'll be bridging things, my friend.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

config t

#9
March 18, 2019, 01:21:59 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 18, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
This got me looking and learning... Harman has its own proprietary protocol and uses switches that handle that as well as IPv4/v6. The network should resemble a OT line that connects to the IT network. You'll be bridging things, my friend.

wassa OT line? Are you gettn' old school on me?
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

deanwebb

#10
March 20, 2019, 04:14:47 PM
OT = Operational Technology, the stuff of production lines and other things that make lots of money with tech from 20 years ago that can't be upgraded that is a hazard to itself and to others.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

config t

#11
March 23, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 20, 2019, 04:14:47 PM
OT = Operational Technology, the stuff of production lines and other things that make lots of money with tech from 20 years ago that can't be upgraded that is a hazard to itself and to others.

Sounds like a learning experience, then. Albeit one I was volunterred for.

I blew through the 6 Harman core certifications in one sitting. The "PC essentials" and "Network Fundamentals" I didn't bother to watch the videos but the rest of it was kind of interesting.
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

deanwebb

#12
March 23, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
Awesome work. Now to plug it all in and to get it working. :)

Personally, I like encountering IoT devices when I do NAC, as it's always fun to research what they are and whether or not their default password works in the customer environment.

Best stuff I've seen so far are Caterpillar autonomous earth movers and a herd of cattle with RFID chips on them.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Dieselboy

#13
March 23, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 23, 2019, 03:03:06 PM

Best stuff I've seen so far are Caterpillar autonomous earth movers and a herd of cattle with RFID chips on them.

They use autonomous mine trucks (the bloody big ones) and they crashed the other week here (not sure why). They also have RC mine trucks that they control from an office in the city, and the trucks are many hours drive away (like 9 hours or more or less).

deanwebb

#14
March 24, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: Dieselboy on March 23, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on March 23, 2019, 03:03:06 PM

Best stuff I've seen so far are Caterpillar autonomous earth movers and a herd of cattle with RFID chips on them.

They use autonomous mine trucks (the bloody big ones) and they crashed the other week here (not sure why). They also have RC mine trucks that they control from an office in the city, and the trucks are many hours drive away (like 9 hours or more or less).

The crash may be due to:
1. Faulty software that didn't account for a special case that developed.
2. Faulty software that didn't correct for interruptions in control traffic.
3. Faulty software that didn't have error-handling code for an unexpected or incorrect input.
4. Operator error because his GUI wasn't delivering correct information because of, well, faulty software...

:smug:
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.
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