Silly TAC, Silly Cisco.

Started by Dieselboy, February 26, 2015, 04:22:52 AM

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Dieselboy

I upgraded our CUCM, CUC, IM&P setup to 10.5.2 the other day. One of my goals in most things is to squeeze every bit of technology out of what we've bought. I notice that there's a few new things to me in the feature list so I go about to have a play. One of them in CUCM is "Wifi hotspot".

So in short, you can configure Cisco phones as wireless access points, or rather, hotspots.

Great! How cool is that! For our remote office in Sri Lanka and our board room where our wifi is limited due to building design I may be able to make good use of this feature.

So I follow the config guide and noting the footnote "not all devices support this feature" I still go ahead an apply it to the Cisco 9971 of mine which is one of the high end desk phones. Didn't work.

I cannot find anywhere, a list of supported endpoints for wifi hotspot. So I raise a TAC.

At first he wanted proof that these options were available in CUCM. Then I had to send him the config guide. And he tells me there are no supported endpoints yet and I need to raise an enhancement request.

Erm.. what?

I can fully understand if the feature is coming to handsets soon. But having no handsets on the roadmap whatsoever, then what's the effing point of putting this in CUCM?

Anyway, I'm going to Cisco live soon. May be I'll have some luck in the area where Cisco show how big their willy's are :)

deanwebb

Welcome to the world of vaporware.  >:D

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*Not all Cisco phones support this feature. By that, we mean none of them do, and none of them ever will, but it makes for good marketing, so we leave it in the slicks and just footnote the claim. See what we did there?
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deanwebb

Now that I think about it, I believe I shall ask my Cisco guy about it when I see him again. He might take it as a feature request, and then you'll get what you want. :)
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Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Otanx

What I really want to know is if they are going to add voice capabilities to their access points. Then every access point is a phone, and every phone is an access point.

-Otanx

deanwebb

Quote from: Otanx on February 26, 2015, 09:22:35 AM
What I really want to know is if they are going to add voice capabilities to their access points. Then every access point is a phone, and every phone is an access point.

-Otanx


Good question, I think I'll ask that as well.
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killabee

We got a taste of that a while back.  We bought some outdoor APs and some remote-office APs that have the ability to broadcast the enterprise SSID at a user's home office and VPN back into the corporate office.  We were told they would be supported on "the next major release" of our WLCs.  Ok, cool. We'll be patient...

A a few months later we had a chat with some of the top wireless guys and we learned that support for those APs were no longer in the roadmap.

Let us know what you think of Cisco Live when you come back  :pub:

icecream-guy

Still waiting support for dual homes FEX via VPC on the 9K's. Last year it was Q1 2015, then is was Q3 2015, now it's Q1 2016.
waste of a crapload of money.
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My Moral Fibers have been cut.

deanwebb

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Trouble is, it's *always* three months in the future...  :wall:

When the actual new code rev does arrive, it's something like, "We improved QoS functionality, fixed some bugs, and upgraded the client piece so that it uses a different version of java totally incompatible with all your other Cisco client software."

:developers:
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Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

icecream-guy

Quote from: deanwebb on February 27, 2015, 08:25:54 AM
Cisco promises a network that will make your whites whiter, your brights brighter, remove those unsightly water stains on your stemware, clean your carpets without all those messy chemicals, slice tomatoes so thin, you can read through them, and do 0 to 60 in negative one seconds.


Were you in the ACI deep dive too?  You just nailed it to a T.
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My Moral Fibers have been cut.

Dieselboy

Fair enough if they have updated CUCM to support the hotspot feature prior to releasing firmware for the phones to physically complete the task. But, they must have tested this feature prior to releasing CUCM 10.5 with these options. So, which phones did they test with? And which phones are on the road map to support this? As it stands it appears that there are no phones on the road map to support this. So, WTH is the option there for? :)

The tac engineer sent me the attached screenshot (he sent me the pdf link and I took the screenshot).

icecream-guy

Quote from: Dieselboy on March 04, 2015, 01:48:29 AM
Fair enough if they have updated CUCM to support the hotspot feature prior to releasing firmware for the phones to physically complete the task. But, they must have tested this feature prior to releasing CUCM 10.5 with these options. So, which phones did they test with? And which phones are on the road map to support this? As it stands it appears that there are no phones on the road map to support this. So, WTH is the option there for? :)

The tac engineer sent me the attached screenshot (he sent me the pdf link and I took the screenshot).



...and how many years did the ASA's have USB Ports that were non-functional?
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My Moral Fibers have been cut.

Dieselboy

Quote from: ristau5741 on March 04, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
...and how many years did the ASA's have USB Ports that were non-functional?

I've always used them :) I have a bluetooth serial / console thing that uses a USB port for power / charging.
But I thought they were for secure boot? I've never read any ASA specific documentation for using them though.

deanwebb

I read the doc that said they are currently not active.

And then I cried a little as I removed the USB stick that had the latest version of ASA code on it and started the friggin' TFTP session...
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

LynK

Quote from: deanwebb on March 10, 2015, 08:30:31 AM
I read the doc that said they are currently not active.

And then I cried a little as I removed the USB stick that had the latest version of ASA code on it and started the friggin' TFTP session...


ahh.. I was wondering why USB didn't work after 3 different failed attempts. I TFTP'd and didn't look back. lol
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NetworkGroover

Quote from: ristau5741 on February 27, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on February 27, 2015, 08:25:54 AM
Cisco promises a network that will make your whites whiter, your brights brighter, remove those unsightly water stains on your stemware, clean your carpets without all those messy chemicals, slice tomatoes so thin, you can read through them, and do 0 to 60 in negative one seconds.


Were you in the ACI deep dive too?  You just nailed it to a T.

Lol.. sorry to necro.. but I was looking for issues folks have had with FEXs and ran across this.  +1000 - pretty glorious.
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