cloud: now in kill flavour

Started by wintermute000, May 19, 2016, 08:03:35 PM

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wintermute000

http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/19/us-navy-tactical-cloud-network-kill-web/


what could possibly go wrong (though in fairness you can be sure its nothing like a public internet cloud)

deanwebb

Looks like fun stuff. So what happens in a Gulf of Tonkin-like incident in which an attack is reported, but isn't happening? Now the whole navy can fire upon ghost attackers, presumably.

Which gets me thinking... a DoS attack on such a system could be a matter of feeding it enough targets so as to create the military equivalent of "SEIM overload".
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Dieselboy

That's great, is it on AWS?  :problem?:

What would be even BETTER is if they used that technology for the better good rather than to blow something or someone up.

I'm tired of reading or hearing about money being spent on killing people.

They could use it for early warning systems for natural disasters.

They could find those missing planes?

deanwebb

Now, now, citizen! Calm down and learn to love your government's military spending, as well as the military spending of your government's erstwhile allies!

You know it's all for your own good!

:vendors:
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Dieselboy

I've just caught on about the Tonkin incident you mentioned. EXACTLY this.

Have you heard of "Brexit"? Lots of government lies there surrounding what is best for the majority of the population. I'm not even allowed to vote on it because of a cock-up and I'm outside of the UK.

deanwebb

Oh yeah, the Brexit... it's like the UK's version of Donald Trump. Scary as hell to the establishment, popular with a goodly chunk of the population.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Dieselboy

Haha

I think what is really needed is an independent analysis done of both pro's and cons of both staying and leaving. I am yet to see one. But there's plenty of scare-mongering going around about if we leave the EU.

At the end of the day we don't really have a say anyway. We're not ever given the full picture either. Like your Tonkin example, all you need to do is google "conspiracies that turned out to be true" (I can't find any on the UK though). Given that google search it only asks questions about what is really going on right now that we're unaware of.

deanwebb

Kinda like how we can recommend product (x) for a solution, but we have no idea how that impacts our relationship with other vendors, CIO strategy, purchasing, accounting, etc. etc. If our product gets selected, it's not for the reasons we gave.

:lol:
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.