ASK THE HEADHUNTER Want the job? Go around HR

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Want the job? Go around HR

In the March 5, 2019 Ask The Headhunter Newsletter a reader wastes time begging HR. Question Can I re-apply for a job if there are vacancies still open after my application has been turned down? Nick’s Reply Of course you can. But why would you want to? Fool me once, fool me twice — you've already learned this company chews up applications and spits them out without even talking to the applicant. Think about this: The hiring manager probably doesn't even know you applied! The manager probably has never seen your resume! A personnel clerk with no expertise in the


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Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

deanwebb

^ The title alone is great advice. You are a TCP packet. HR is an obstruction. *Route around it!*
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Otanx

The funny thing is depending on the size of the company the hiring manager will then send the resume to HR to process you into the system. I just had to sit through a day of HR training on interviewing, and writing position descriptions. Our company has to go through EEO and AA audits every year because of some federal contracts we hold, so they need to be able to prove the best candidate got the job. Learning how all that worked was interesting. The example we used in class is if the position description was written as "Requires CISSP" then HR can not forward a candidate to the hiring manager that does not have a CISSP. Even if the hiring manager refereed the person to start with. However, if you write the description as "CISSP preferred" then they can, and the hiring manager just has to document why they accepted the non CISSP candidate over the one that had a CISSP.

Of course not every company needs to be as rigid so YMMV.

-Otanx

deanwebb

The difference between required and preferred is night and day. And many, many companies are strict like that, as you describe. Privately-held firms can be a little looser, and one of the best places I've seen to work is at a customer of mine that's a privately-held company. It's a big global megacorp, but they still have a very healthy work environment and they can make sure they get the best people for the job.

Sometimes, it's a matter of knowing a candidate well enough so as to write the job requirements based off of the candidate's resume. Then, later the same day... "Wow! A perfect match!"

:smug:
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.