Clouds, SDNs, and Automation - Looking back 10 years

Started by deanwebb, August 23, 2023, 08:19:29 AM

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deanwebb

Remember 10 years ago when all this was pretty much about to start or just getting going? Well, it's time to look back and ask - how much have these techs changed what we used to do on the network and how much was able to stay the same?

For me, the cloud has absolutely done the most disruption in that the cloud environment itself is an SDN and is very amenable to automation. Costs aside, the ease of management in the cloud is a strong case for shifting up there. On-prem vendors have been scrambling to get cloud solutions together, and a fair number of them have some strong tools for the clouds, but they're also going head-to-head with cloud providers that push their own tools - Microsoft - and with vendors that started in the cloud, like Netskope and Zscaler.

I haven't seen much on-prem SDN. I have seen better automation on-prem, but it's typically limited to spinning up VMs and containers and running management tools like Cisco Prime.

What's everyone else seeing out there?
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
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Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

icecream-guy

unfortunately our network security group has been left out of the cloud, that's all managed by another team/contract.
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

deanwebb

^ That's very common and, sadly, I see those cloud teams having more in common with the development folks than with the networking people, especially when it comes to security. The biggest threats we have in the cloud are all the open ports, bad passwords, poor practices, shared accounts, and so on that people leave open... it's like they're used to running around in their on-prem underwear, thinking a firewall is always between them and the rest of the world. But, in fact, we can see EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING.














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Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.