Is CCxx cloud superceding CCxx DC?

[wintermute000]

Take a look at the syllabus and you tell me....


https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccna-cloud/cldadm/exam-topics
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccna-cloud/cldfnd/exam-topics



given that Cisco is no longer pushing 7k/5k and is going all in on 9k, whether in NXOS or ACI mode....
and hmm all that UCS stuff in the cloud course


makes you wonder. I hope they do the decent thing and announce their intentions sharpish. The old DCUFI etc. material is getting long in the tooth surely


OR is it more the 'cloud' is the orchestration layer and the 'dc' track will remain for the nuts and bolts underlying layers i.e. configuring UCS manager and FIs


I really wish they'd stop rolling their UCS hardware stuff with the networking stuff from a certification POV.


But it does look like there's no point in pursuing a CCNP DC at this stage, not until their intentions are clear and that course gets refreshed / CCNP cloud is released and we know for sure.

[deanwebb]

Excellent questions, Wintermute. It does look like those cert paths need some caution before diving on into them.

[NetworkGroover]

I think I said this before on another thread.  They aren't really in touch with "cloudifying" the DC - though now they're getting closer.  I'd avoid any DC-like tracks until they firmly establish where they're going.  First it was FabricPath, then ACI, and now they're finally getting a clue and starting to learn from those who've been doing it for a while now.

[wintermute000]

Regarding this certification, I couldn't care less about the words data center, it's more after a way to present to the customers that yes I am nexus certified

[burnyd]

I think I said this before on another thread.  They aren't really in touch with "cloudifying" the DC - though now they're getting closer.  I'd avoid any DC-like tracks until they firmly establish where they're going.  First it was FabricPath, then ACI, and now they're finally getting a clue and starting to learn from those who've been doing it for a while now.

qft seriously!

[burnyd]

No idea where that place is going.  Too many BU's and too many technologies.  Everything seems to intersect with each other.

[NetworkGroover]

Regarding this certification, I couldn't care less about the words data center, it's more after a way to present to the customers that yes I am nexus certified

Ah - ok.  Well, if I'm understanding you correctly, than disregard what I stated if your only interest is to show that you're certified to work on Nexus equipment.

[wintermute000]

I'm reading the CCNP Cloud syllabus and it actually looks kinda interesting - at least the non Cisco bits do. Only hitch is not really sure if I want to spend time learning UCS director or SAN stuff (or whisper it, ACI).

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp-cloud/clddes/exam-topics
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp-cloud/cldinf/exam-topics

Either way they seem to want to hit you with UCS every way you look - I don't mind learning some high level stuff but I'm not sure its a worthwhile investment getting into the weeds when I'll likely never touch it IRL (let alone all the FC/SAN stuff...) and it will get horrifically outdated very soon anyway (in fact the standard CCNP DC syllabus is looking decidedly dated already).

[deanwebb]

I'm reading the CCNP Cloud syllabus and it actually looks kinda interesting - at least the non Cisco bits do. Only hitch is not really sure if I want to spend time learning UCS director or SAN stuff (or whisper it, ACI).

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp-cloud/clddes/exam-topics
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp-cloud/cldinf/exam-topics

Either way they seem to want to hit you with UCS every way you look - I don't mind learning some high level stuff but I'm not sure its a worthwhile investment getting into the weeds when I'll likely never touch it IRL (let alone all the FC/SAN stuff...) and it will get horrifically outdated very soon anyway (in fact the standard CCNP DC syllabus is looking decidedly dated already).

Maybe now, since you got that nice CCIE, you could take some time and pull books on the data center that aren't vendor-specific. That could give more perspective on what vendors offer and how useful certain features may be.