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Started by dlots, October 01, 2015, 06:56:09 AM

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wintermute000

Quote from: ristau5741 on October 02, 2015, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: dlots on October 02, 2015, 09:10:19 AM
I don't want to move to Texas because of my in-laws, so nope not interested in Europe

man, you are limiting yourself so much.... :whistle:

that's pretty harsh LOL. I wouldn't move from Melbourne unless it was a ridiculous offer, and we're not exactly a hive of IT activity.

dlots

I have worked on systems in Melbourne before

deanwebb

OK, so I did a phone interview today just for grins, and the guys asking the questions sounded like they pretty much phone it in every day. I did some research, and the company is in Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings, and has been for about 5-6 years. The whole thing reminded me of Kruger Industrial Smoothing from Seinfeld.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kVBGeQeR4

This job might be a shorter drive to work and a little more money, but I don't want to be George Costanza. Also, they don't allow remote working and they have an "open floorplan" office, which means they're too cheap to buy cubes and the noise is terrible. Thumbs very down and I love my job even more after interviewing there.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
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config t

Well.. judging by the responses here I know where I will post when I'm done contracting in the Middle East and looking to make a move  :whistle:

Any luck dlots?

Quote from: deanwebb on October 06, 2015, 09:45:56 PM
OK, so I did a phone interview today just for grins, and the guys asking the questions sounded like they pretty much phone it in every day. I did some research, and the company is in Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings, and has been for about 5-6 years. The whole thing reminded me of Kruger Industrial Smoothing from Seinfeld.

I have learned through trial and error that a little due diligence helps avoid situations like that. Good on you for doing the research. Yo mama didn't raise no fool.
:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

dlots

I have an interview today at 11:00 with Cisco for a security position I doubt I am qualified for, and one tomorrow (I think) for a GE contractor.

deanwebb

Quote from: dlots on October 08, 2015, 08:59:54 AM
I have an interview today at 11:00 with Cisco for a security position I doubt I am qualified for, and one tomorrow (I think) for a GE contractor.

Security is pretty hot stuff, go in with confidence. Tell the truth, be positive, and you might get an offer that you doubt you'll be qualified for.

:greatoffer:
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

NetworkGroover

Quote from: deanwebb on October 08, 2015, 09:52:29 AM
Quote from: dlots on October 08, 2015, 08:59:54 AM
I have an interview today at 11:00 with Cisco for a security position I doubt I am qualified for, and one tomorrow (I think) for a GE contractor.

Security is pretty hot stuff, go in with confidence. Tell the truth, be positive, and you might get an offer that you doubt you'll be qualified for.

:greatoffer:

Truth.....  when I think back I'm still shocked that I almost didn't pursue the job I'm in now because I didn't feel like I was qualified, and never imagined I'd be making what I'm making without a CCIE.  Just go for it and be honest like Dean said... the worst that can happen is you're told no and you just move on with your life.
Engineer by day, DJ by night, family first always

icecream-guy

Quote from: AspiringNetworker on October 08, 2015, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on October 08, 2015, 09:52:29 AM
Quote from: dlots on October 08, 2015, 08:59:54 AM
I have an interview today at 11:00 with Cisco for a security position I doubt I am qualified for, and one tomorrow (I think) for a GE contractor.

Security is pretty hot stuff, go in with confidence. Tell the truth, be positive, and you might get an offer that you doubt you'll be qualified for.

:greatoffer:

Truth.....  when I think back I'm still shocked that I almost didn't pursue the job I'm in now because I didn't feel like I was qualified, and never imagined I'd be making what I'm making without a CCIE.  Just go for it and be honest like Dean said... the worst that can happen is you're told no and you just move on with your life.

..and you get interview practice to hone those interview skills.   it's always taken me 3 or 4 to get back in the groove.
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

routerdork

I received a call today with good news. They've got to get the letter finalized and sent over so I don't know all details yet. But if all goes well and I like what I see next week my coffee cup, USB missile launcher, and I will be somewhere else November 9th. Fluffy rabbits for everyone  :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
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dlots

NICE!!
I didn't get the job, or even make it to the next round: they wanted someone with Fire-Power and ISE experience.  You think they wouldn't have called me since I told them I didn't have XP with either of those, but I am always happy to practice my interviewing skills.

wintermute000

Quote from: dlots on October 08, 2015, 02:59:50 PM
NICE!!
I didn't get the job, or even make it to the next round: they wanted someone with Fire-Power and ISE experience.  You think they wouldn't have called me since I told them I didn't have XP with either of those, but I am always happy to practice my interviewing skills.

I really hate that.
- they knew up front you didn't have that exact XP, why did they waste anyone's time
- I bet majority of people with that XP already work for Cisco - they're both relatively new, anyone from Enterprise with that XP would only know their company's specific setup anyway - what's the issue in hiring someone with existing IPS/NAC XP and training up?

config t

Quote from: wintermute000 on October 08, 2015, 05:05:50 PM
what's the issue in hiring someone with existing IPS/NAC XP and training up?

Sounds like they are chasing the ol' purple squirrel.

:matrix:

Please don't mistake my experience for intelligence.

that1guy15

Dude drop me an DM or email with your strong areas, what you want to do and your radius to move.

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NetworkGroover

Quote from: wintermute000 on October 08, 2015, 05:05:50 PM
Quote from: dlots on October 08, 2015, 02:59:50 PM
NICE!!
I didn't get the job, or even make it to the next round: they wanted someone with Fire-Power and ISE experience.  You think they wouldn't have called me since I told them I didn't have XP with either of those, but I am always happy to practice my interviewing skills.

I really hate that.
- they knew up front you didn't have that exact XP, why did they waste anyone's time
- I bet majority of people with that XP already work for Cisco - they're both relatively new, anyone from Enterprise with that XP would only know their company's specific setup anyway - what's the issue in hiring someone with existing IPS/NAC XP and training up?

Yeah.... that's some B.S. right there...  it's like folks wanting Nexus experience when it was new and there was no way to train on it.  People need to be a little more realistic (Especially around hiring a "personality" rather than a skill set - they can be trained as winter mentioned)
Engineer by day, DJ by night, family first always

NetworkGroover

Quote from: routerdork on October 08, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
I received a call today with good news. They've got to get the letter finalized and sent over so I don't know all details yet. But if all goes well and I like what I see next week my coffee cup, USB missile launcher, and I will be somewhere else November 9th. Fluffy rabbits for everyone  :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

Lol... USB missile launcher?  Sounds like you will be missed...
Engineer by day, DJ by night, family first always