So, IPv6 has apparently been rolled out to me at home

Dieselboy · January 21, 2016, 01:34:02 AM

I guess we probably all do this, connect to our computers at home to check things out. I've just made some firewall changes in the office and want to confirm that it's accessible from the internet. It wasn't working so I went to google and did a "what is my IP" so I could put this IP in the ASDM log filter.

However, when I went to Google it said:

Dieselboy · January 21, 2016, 01:39:43 AM

Just a little bit excited, since I haven't had this set up without a tunnel.

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C:\Users\Tony>tracert facebook.com

Tracing route to facebook.com [2a03:2880:2130:cf24:face:b00c:0:25de]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     8 ms     4 ms    55 ms  2001:8003:821f:xxxx::1
  2     4 ms    24 ms     3 ms  2001:8003:0:bdf:f0:9:1:0
  3     6 ms     4 ms     6 ms  2001:8003:9a:1700:5:61:0:ea01
  4     5 ms     6 ms     7 ms  bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [2001:8000:0:2070:101:117:0:1]
  5    41 ms    38 ms    38 ms  bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [2001:8000:0:2000:5001:7001:0:1]
  6    47 ms    48 ms    48 ms  bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [2001:8000:0:2000:4001:5001:0:1]
  7    64 ms    60 ms    60 ms  bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [2001:8000:0:2000:3001:4001:0:5]
  8    60 ms     *       66 ms  bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [2001:8000:0:2030:132:511:0:2]
  9     *        *       68 ms  2403:e800:105:36::1
 10   210 ms   214 ms   212 ms  2403:e800:ff00:110::3e
 11     *

Also, there's zero IPv6 config options on the Telstra router they have supplied me. <- I've still not been able to hack this

Reggle · January 21, 2016, 02:30:28 AM

Cool. I abandoned my tunnel because it increased latency for IPv6 websites. Currently waiting, my provider has promised a DHCPv6 prefix delegation and I have multiple VLANs here. So IPv4 only for now.

Dieselboy · January 21, 2016, 02:42:33 AM

That's why I abandoned mine. I didn't know they would be rolling out ipv6 to home users.

I want our ISP here in the office to push another VLAN down to our router that is IPv6, but they want an additional $32 per month for the IP addresses.

Is there any real benefit to being on IPv6 at the moment? Aside from being able to access things that are IPv6 enabled, I don't think there is anything only IPv6?

wintermute000 · January 21, 2016, 04:20:21 AM

You don't have to NAT? (and can no longer multi-home without your own PI address and ASN....)
You can hard core all your default GWs to fe80::1 and configure all your link-local router addresses as fe80::1 and it still works, if you're game?

Reggle · January 21, 2016, 05:53:53 AM

An additional $32 per month for an IPv6 subnet? They can stick it up their ****. It doesn't cost them anything. Maybe, perhaps maybe, a one-time setup fee.

Oh, and no benefits for the moment for IPv6 really. In fact, as much as I like new stuff and IPv6, I still feel a network behaver better on IPv4 only. But that can't last of course.

routerdork · January 21, 2016, 08:09:01 AM

I've got TimeWarner Cable. I noticed a few weeks ago that if I enabled IPv6 on my outside interface I did in fact get an address. Unfortunately it doesn't go anywhere and I can't ping my gateway. So they must still be missing something in my area.

deanwebb · January 21, 2016, 10:29:38 AM

Quote from: routerdork on January 21, 2016, 08:09:01 AM
I've got TimeWarner Cable. I noticed a few weeks ago that if I enabled IPv6 on my outside interface I did in fact get an address. Unfortunately it doesn't go anywhere and I can't ping my gateway. So they must still be missing something in my area.

They are missing expertise and the ability to count to f.

SimonV · January 21, 2016, 11:27:37 AM

I have it already since somewhere in 2012. My provider was probably the first one to have it available in Belgium. Ran perfectly with prefix delegation on my 877 but had to abondon it when I started using a 3550 with L3 interfaces as my home core switch. Set it up again recently on my SRX and got rid of the VLAN hassle. I think about 30% of traffic is now v6, major sites like google and facebook are all v6.

I believe I get a /56 prefix which is further divided into /64s with Prefix Delegation. I first tried manual configuration and subnetting but it wouldn't get routed. According to the provider I can only use PD with my non-business subscription. It has a dynamic v4 address but the v6 prefix has never changed as far I know.

I wonder if the providers implement some sort of firewalling, as the addresses are now globally routed?

that1guy15 · January 21, 2016, 12:10:22 PM

Nice! I am still hit or miss on SuddenLinks Tech support person knowing what it is or not...

I have been begging to get on their Alpha or Beta testing but they will not respond.

routerdork · January 21, 2016, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: deanwebb on January 21, 2016, 10:29:38 AM
Quote from: routerdork on January 21, 2016, 08:09:01 AM
I've got TimeWarner Cable. I noticed a few weeks ago that if I enabled IPv6 on my outside interface I did in fact get an address. Unfortunately it doesn't go anywhere and I can't ping my gateway. So they must still be missing something in my area.

They are missing expertise and the ability to count to f.

We have a new provider that has announced fiber to the home coming to the area. However they are a ways out so for now it's them or Windstream.

wintermute000 · January 21, 2016, 03:01:52 PM

http://blog.ipspace.net/2016/01/ipv6-address-allocation-is-operating.html?m=1#more

routerdork · January 21, 2016, 03:10:58 PM

Had a chat with TimeWarner today. The rep told me that I will only get a v6 address once the v4 loop has been exhausted. I call BS. I know it doesn't work that way since I have an v4 address and received a v6 address when I enabled it. I just can't get anywhere. They locked up on that question. Morons.

Dieselboy · January 21, 2016, 07:32:39 PM

Quote from: Reggle on January 21, 2016, 05:53:53 AM
An additional $32 per month for an IPv6 subnet? They can stick it up their ****. It doesn't cost them anything. Maybe, perhaps maybe, a one-time setup fee.

Oh, and no benefits for the moment for IPv6 really. In fact, as much as I like new stuff and IPv6, I still feel a network behaver better on IPv4 only. But that can't last of course.

THANK YOU. You have the same thought as I do. I was unsure if I was being unreasonable. You know what - I'm going to contact them now and say we're not paying the $32 a month but I'm happy to pay a one-off setup fee. And see what they say

Dieselboy · January 21, 2016, 07:42:31 PM

The driver for me to get v6 in the office is to really ensure we're moving with the times and future proofing our business. Plus, the "moving with the times" part means more working knowledge of v6 for me and my guys. My sys admin still disables v6 on all our Red Hat servers; I think this is due to previous experience of v6 dual stack causing issues with tomcat / apache etc. I'd expect it to be all good now though.

As I said above about the home v6 - there;s no config options in the ISP router for me to change anything in v6. The router doesn't even give any indication of IPv6 addressing.

Running ipconfig at home, looks like DHCPv6 is issuing addresses, but im unsure what the "temporary" addresses are; Windows says "depreciated".

Also, what's the reason behind no mask against the IPv6 address? How are you supposed to figure out what's in your network? Or is it always the same mask /64? I think it's been close to5 years since I played around with v6.

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C:\Users\Tony>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tony-PC
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gateway

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 54-04-A6-3A-72-60
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Local Area Connection* 2:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 16-D5-3D-28-7F-18
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home.local
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : E4-D5-3D-28-7F-18
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:8003:821f:9400:1985:74d1:9a50:33fa(Preferred)
   Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:8003:821f:9400:3959:4353:5ec5:2f01(Preferred)
   Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:8003:821f:9400:a87c:3804:ee6d:b534(Deprecated)
   Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:8003:821f:9400:e50c:de37:4f45:91a2(Deprecated)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1985:74d1:9a50:33fa%3(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.192.67(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 15 January 2016 12:14:18
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 January 2016 00:01:07
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c6ea:1dff:fe44:4578%3
                                       192.168.192.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.192.250
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 316986685
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1D-54-A3-31-54-04-A6-3A-72-60
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:8003:821f:9400::1
                                       8.8.8.8
                                       208.67.220.220
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix Search List :
                                       gateway

Tunnel adapter isatap.home.local:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home.local
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:9d38:6abd:4ca:6ed:9a4e:ac26(Preferred)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4ca:6ed:9a4e:ac26%7(Preferred)
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 352321536
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1D-54-A3-31-54-04-A6-3A-72-60
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

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