OSPF question

Started by Nerm, March 22, 2016, 07:48:38 AM

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Nerm

I have a unique situation (at least for me) where I have two OSPF routers on each side of a static routing only device. Is it possible to do any kind of OSPF transit across/through a device that doesn't support OSPF? I thought about doing something like a GRE tunnel but the static device is a firewall and I want it to be able to see into the traffic.

routerdork

Is the firewall VLAN capable?
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Nerm

Yes it is and I didn't even think about that.

deanwebb

Each router has a big ol' static route pointing at the firewall?
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icecream-guy

GRE in transport mode should allow visibility at the firewall, if you want to hide it, you could do tunnel mode and encapsulate it in IPSEC
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Nerm

Quote from: deanwebb on March 22, 2016, 08:19:49 AM
Each router has a big ol' static route pointing at the firewall?

Yep, big ol' summary routes.

that1guy15

Yup tunnel is your solution as everyone above said.

BUT I hate this design and try to avoid it when possible. OSPF or any IGP does not play nice when you start to separate the control-plane from the data plan and even more so when you push those through a firewall. Same reason OSPF virtual links are a bad idea.

If you need dynamic routing between those two devices then BGP is a better fit. Just open up BGP on the firewall and go to town. 
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deanwebb

BGP on a firewall...

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I laugh because of Cisco.
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"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
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Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

that1guy15

Yeah Cisco firewalls suck, but then again I hate firewalls...

Our new DCs are all BGP peered with our firewalls and we are slowly migrating the rest. Used to pass the BGP peer through but its ugly. We are getting some seriously impressive failover times with this new model.
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Nerm

The firewall unfortunately doesn't do ospf/bgp/etc.

deanwebb

Quote from: Nerm on March 22, 2016, 06:19:36 PM
The firewall unfortunately doesn't do ospf/bgp/etc.

Let me guess... Cisco ASA?
Yeah, you're going to want to use that big ol' static route.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

Nerm


Nerm

Based on my research it looks like I might be able to "redneck" it with bgp. Gonna lab it tomorrow and will post back with my results.

dlots

How would BGP work?

yes router 1 and 2 will exchange routes, but if you don't have a tunnel of some kind (which as ristau5741 your FW should be able to see into as long as your not encrypting it) the FW won't know what to do with the traffic once R1 sends it up there to go to R2.

You can't make it a transparent (L2) firewall can you?

LynK

If you have any sort of outside switch, on the other end of the firewall, I do not see what the problem is here? Connect them via L2, and do not have them go through a FW.
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