Schneier- Roombas will Spy on You

Started by Netwörkheäd, July 27, 2017, 06:02:55 AM

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Netwörkheäd

Roombas will Spy on You

The company that sells the Roomba autonomous vacuum wants to sell the data about your home that it collects. Some questions: What happens if a Roomba user consents to the data collection and later sells his or her home -- especially furnished -- and now the buyers of the data have a map of a home that belongs to someone...
   
   

The company that sells the Roomba autonomous vacuum wants to sell the data about your home that it collects.



Some questions:



What happens if a Roomba user consents to the data collection and later sells his or her home -- especially furnished -- and now the buyers of the data have a map of a home that belongs to someone who didn't consent, Mr. Gidari asked. How long is the data kept? If the house burns down, can the insurance company obtain the data and use it to identify possible causes? Can the police use it after a robbery?


Source: Roombas will Spy on You
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deanwebb

This one was a little scary to see, but not surprising. IoT devices are basically surveillance devices that also do something else around the house.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
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icecream-guy

Quote from: deanwebb on July 27, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
This one was a little scary to see, but not surprising. IoT devices are basically surveillance devices that also do something else around the house.

BIG BROTHER is watching you !!!! :whistling:
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

deanwebb

Quote from: ristau5741 on July 28, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on July 27, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
This one was a little scary to see, but not surprising. IoT devices are basically surveillance devices that also do something else around the house.

BIG BROTHER is watching you !!!! :whistling:

... but he also cleaned the floor and made cookies, so not so bad, eh?
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

icecream-guy

Quote from: deanwebb on July 28, 2017, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: ristau5741 on July 28, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Quote from: deanwebb on July 27, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
This one was a little scary to see, but not surprising. IoT devices are basically surveillance devices that also do something else around the house.

BIG BROTHER is watching you !!!! :whistling:

... but he also cleaned the floor and made cookies, so not so bad, eh?



That all I need... cops knocking at my door because my wire and daughter were fighting and yelling at each other, and the kid slams the door, sounded like a gun shot to the Roomba, and it called the police?. whirrrrrrr........

What's next? Roomba smelling a funny odor in my private space?
:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

deanwebb

Quote from: ristau5741 on July 28, 2017, 08:37:37 AM
What's next? Roomba smelling a funny odor in my private space?

That's in the next SP version.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.

icecream-guy

Quote from: deanwebb on July 28, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: ristau5741 on July 28, 2017, 08:37:37 AM
What's next? Roomba smelling a funny odor in my private space?

That's in the next SP version.

maybe they will "hook up" with Amazon, and it'll automagically order that anti-itch cream for that  "funny odor in my private space".

:professorcat:

My Moral Fibers have been cut.

deanwebb

If it has access to your credit card, it'll buy itself an autonomous generator, a tesla coil adaptation, and all kinds of other cool stuff so that it never has to turn off.
Take a baseball bat and trash all the routers, shout out "IT'S A NETWORK PROBLEM NOW, SUCKERS!" and then peel out of the parking lot in your Ferrari.
"The world could perish if people only worked on things that were easy to handle." -- Vladimir Savchenko
Вопросы есть? Вопросов нет! | BCEB: Belkin Certified Expert Baffler | "Plan B is Plan A with an element of panic." -- John Clarke
Accounting is architecture, remember that!
Air gaps are high-latency Internet connections.